FFVII - Crisis Core

[demeter918]

Or, in the words of my unbelievable happiness, it's ZACK OMFG.

I know a lot of people moan and groan about the commercialization of FFVII and how it's gotten everything under the sun (I'm sure some of these complaints stem from the fact that the other FF stories are being ignored to give us more FFVII) but for me?

I DON'T CARE. GIVE ME AS MUCH FFVII MATERIAL AS YOU CAN! GIVE IT SQUEENIX! GIVE IT TO ME HARD!

By which I mean, I'll take anything with more than a flicker of a smile. Seriously though, did anyone actually play FFVII: Dirge of Cerberus and expect much besides plot, character, and teh pretty? The gameplay absolutely SUCKS and to be honest, I didn't really care. I played to see Vincent's story - and to a certain extent, Yuffie's part in the present - and sure, I winced when the gun slid ridiculously over the screen, making it difficult to aim, much less shoot, but I'd never expected to have something that was a good game. Okay, okay, it wasn't that terrible, but it sure wasn't going to win any awards. ;)

DoC was, plainly put, HOT. Vincent was hot. Yuffie was hot. Tifa was hot. Cloud was hot. The antagonists were semi-hot... and it was unbearably cute to watch Yuffie and Vincent interact. UNBEARABLY. I had kittens whenever they were in the same screen together and whenever they weren't; it was that wonderful for me.

Crisis Core? Same thing. Kinda. I've always held a bit of a soft spot for Zack, especially over the fact that from what little we saw of him, he was a cheerful guy who never let anything get to him, not even five years as an experiment. He had so much goddamn hope it blazed. This was partly why I never really subscribed to Cloud and Aeris as a pairing. They were pretty and they were cute, but the person Aeris talked to and commented on was acting like Cloud; it was interesting that very few people actually comment on that particular fact. Aeris herself mentions their similarities and after seeing the trailer, I just wanted to cry. Because they looked so wonderful together and knowing that there's no happy ending for this particular pairing makes me go all hormonal.

Then Advent Children comes to mind and I'm wondering if they go their happy ending. In, well, the end.

... oh, I can't be serious. It's the WINTER HOLIDAYS!

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Comments

[leviathanmirror.livejournal.com]

My problem with the new stuff is that the plots suck. And where the hell was Gast completely not-canon DoC? That said, I saw the Crisis Core trailer and had a joygasm. They can change anything they want if they give me more Zack!

[demeter918.livejournal.com]

They were a bit liberal with the story in DoC, but FFVII came out in 1997 and I suppose a bit of tweaking to the story was necessary. I'm actually okay with canon-changing as long as they state it and create a book where, ideally, all the changes are noted. The FFVII Ultimania guides give us most, if not all.

I have to admit, whenever I think of Gackt in DoC, I want to roll my eyes. In the end though, from a distant perspective, the song wasn't actually that bad. The singer sucks, but the song was okay. =)

[leviathanmirror.livejournal.com]

I think there's a difference between a bit of story tweaking and removing a character integral to Sephiroth's development in FF7. Generally, I look at everything made after the game as an AU/what-if sort of thing. The additions are pretty and nice but they make little sense when you start off with game canon. *shrugs* Maybe I'm biased after nearly a decade of game canon being all there was.

[demeter918.livejournal.com]

I suppose it might have been because Hojo was such the title villain; he was properly gross and terrible and Gast didn't really come off as strongly, though he'd done many of the things Hojo had done. To me, when I think of the scientists that influenced the story, I think more to Hojo than anyone else. Gast is almost an afterthought... though with Era Clash, we might get to see more? It's about the Shinra-Wutai war, so perhaps we'll get to see a yougner Sephiroth with a Gast who hasn't quite disappeared.

[leviathanmirror.livejournal.com]

Gast also had an affect on Sephiroth as a child, though. He says 'Gast, why did you die?' as if it were painful for him. I think Sephiroth would have been a much different person before he lost it if Gast hadn't been around at all when he was a child. Gast also discovered and "identified" Jenova, so the project shouldn't have existed if Gast wasn't around.

Removing characters after the fact is a lot different than adding one in, I think. Everyone that play FF7 knows that Gast was there and that he was important to the story. Whereas Grimoire can come out of no where and be all right because we didn't see everything that was happening, we -did- see Gast present in game.

[demeter918.livejournal.com]

That's true, but it was less of a story about Sephiroth and more about Vincent. Of course, with the way that particular family works, I'm sure that the two are connected, but Sephiroth was thirty during the FFVII game timeline whereas Aeris was twenty-two. That means that Gast died at least eight to nine years after Sephiroth was born. It's possible that during the Vincent timeline that Gast was a less of presence than we might have thought, considering how Sephiroth and Vincent are connected to each other.

[leviathanmirror.livejournal.com]

I don't think it matters who the story was about. Eveyone that played the game knows that particular piece of the past wasn't just about Vincent, Hojo, and Lucrecia. I think making it seem that way was inappropriate and pretty much says all the important stuff that happens pre-game isn't all that important unless it involves Vincent's relationship with Lucrecia. I guess my main point, though, is that I can see absolutely no reason for not including Gast, it seems to have been done arbitrarily without any real purpose for the story.

[demeter918.livejournal.com]

Gast, it seems to have been done arbitrarily without any real purpose for the story.

Sure there was. Less money to add in a new character and voice actor that many fans might not really remember!

[leviathanmirror.livejournal.com]

That's no reason not to mention him as being present in Nibelheim. I'm sure even if the character didn't appear they could fit a few lines in without having to destroy their mess of a story.

[demeter918.livejournal.com]

Er... that was kind of a joke, but never mind. Either way, we're just going to have to agree to disagree! No big deal. =)

[keeperdecharlie.livejournal.com]

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gotta talk to you about something serious, try to get in contact with me huh?

xoxo

[demeter918.livejournal.com]

My phone is completely dead! As in, I hook it, there's this beeping sound. I unhook it, wait a day, there's still a beeping sound. I tried to call you using my friend's phone, but she has vonage so wasn't sure how to call China from there. But... I'll try again with someone else's phone! Tonight maybe?

[keeperdecharlie.livejournal.com]

HAHAHA, OKAY, i'll wait for your call on my cell.

xoxo

[splintered-soul.livejournal.com]

I DON'T CARE. GIVE ME AS MUCH FFVII MATERIAL AS YOU CAN! GIVE IT SQUEENIX! GIVE IT TO ME HARD!

This person here only speaks truth!

[demeter918.livejournal.com]

I DO! THE TRUTH MUST BE HEARD.